leeguirado Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I am creating trance music with logic pro and want to start playing the keyboard to make riffs and chord progressions etc. I am confused as to how people start playing chords though. Is it a case of e.g. If i play a major chord (C major), does everything i play after that need to be a major chord too? If i choose to play in the e.g. C major scale, do all the chords i play have to be ABCDEFG major? Can you play minor chords and major together? Do certain chords have to be played with other ones to sound good? As for creating riffs- Is it a case of picking 3 - 4 notes that sound good together, then alternating between them one note by one to make a melody, while pressing and holding a bass note too? As you can see, i am not familiar with keyboard theory haha any help would be appreciated, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle808us Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 One good thing about the beauty of music is that there are no rules. Only theory. If it sounds like what you want then use it. If it doesn't try something else. Be free don't get bogged down with rules. But also you should study some theory. There is an abundance of information on the internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nev17 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 In addition to uncle808us' good advice, a tried & tested way to understand the structure of music is by learning to play songs you love. Over time, you will become familiar with the way songs & chord sequences are constructed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efiebke Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 In addition to the good advice regarding music having no rules and to learn some basic music theory, it might also be very helpful to take some time to do some ear training. This could be done officially with instruction or by being self-taught. Also, it goes hand-in-hand with music theory. For starters, become familiar with the SOUND of the triads (three-note chords) as they are derived from, and as they relate to, the Major and Minor scales. Also, become familiar with the SOUND of the triad derived from Major and Minor scales as they relate to each other. That's ear-training. Now, take it a step further, and become familiar with the SOUND of the chord-scales (or modes) as they relate to the triads (or chords). For example, the C Major triad (the notes, C-E-G) has the actual C-Major scale as its "chord-scale". (It's also known as the Ionian Scale or Mode.) Now, start with the next note up from C and go to D. From there derive the triad from D as it relates to the C-Major scale which would be the notes, D-F-A. This would be a D-Minor triad (chord), and it's corresponding "chord-scale" (derived from the C-Major scale) would be the Dorian Scale: D-E-F-G-A-B-C and D. Note the distinct difference in SOUND between the C Major Triad and its cooresponding chord-scale (aka the Ionian Mode) to the D Minor Triad and its cooresponding chord-scale (aka the Dorian Mode). Again, THAT's ear training! I believe that the bottom line to be is this: Music Theory and Ear Training make available "Sonic Colors" for the composer. The more Music Theory and Ear Training learned, the more "Sonic Colors" available to compose music. This would be true for classical music, jazz, rock and roll, country, electronic dance music, trance music, rap, etc., etc., etc., etc. (Of course, knowing the different styles of music is important, too!) Music theory and ear training is applicable to all styles/genres of music, and to all music found in all cultures of the world. In my book, the more learned, the better. Why? Because if gives the composer all sorts of "Sonic Colors" and CONTROL over the compositional process to use the so-called "rules" or to break them. As corney as it sounds, knowledge gives you control. Such control is a beautiful thing in the world of music composition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeguirado Posted October 1, 2014 Author Share Posted October 1, 2014 Thanks for the good comments. I think i will do some ear training, think that will help a lot, and aid me in knowing what sound will go well with what. Also what is the difference between C major and A minor scale? I know they are the same scale, so whats the point in the two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Also what is the difference between C major and A minor scale? I know they are the same scale, so whats the point in the two? The difference is the root note. The root is A on the natural minor scale and C on the Major scale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeguirado Posted October 1, 2014 Author Share Posted October 1, 2014 ahh yes of course, should of thought of that. But i could have a bass line with the root note being F, but the other notes around it being in the C major scale couldnt I? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Of course you could. If you want the name for it it's called Lydian. Mode (music) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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