evil_cliff Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) Hey all, I’ve starting using a lot of sends recently in my productions but the problem starts when I need to deliver to my publisher. I’m bouncing Aux’s of All Guitars, All Drums, All Vocals etc but my bounces don’t have any of the return reverbs. I’ve tried to solo-safe the Reverb returns with no success and I hear other instruments in the effect. Now I know I can Bounce the actual return and have the effect in the arrangement, but when my stems go to ad agency’s they may wish to remove parts so I need every group to have its own reverb attached. Can be achieved? Edited January 17, 2021 by evil_cliff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzfilth Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 If you're working with Stems and Sends, you need to use Send1 (going to Rev1) only from members of Stem1, Send2 (going to Rev2 which may or may not be the same setting as Rev1) only from members of Stem2, Send3 (going to Rev3 which may or may not be the same setting as Rev1) only from members of Stem3. Put the Auxes with Rev1,2 and 3 in their respective Stem's Track Stack. Now each Stem/Stack will have its separate reverb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_cliff Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) Thanks for your quick reply! Ah ok, so just duplicate the return with the same verb so each set of instruments have a different channel but the same “space”? Just to be clear I have the sends coming off of individual tracks that are then feeding into an Aux subgroup - I’m not sending from the subgroups. If I am to put the return track in the arrange and then into a stack, would that do the same? Edited January 17, 2021 by evil_cliff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzfilth Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Each member of a Stem sends to the same reverb and that reverb goes into that Stem's Track Stack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertspectral Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 (edited) I don't know if this might be helpful. I've been studying this Orchestra template created by Christian Henson & Jake Jackson. It's reset my perspective on "bouncing" tracks. Now I don't write orchestral music, but I've taken these ideas about routing and template structure and adapted them to my needs. YMMV. Here, in this tutorial I've bookmarked to the spot where they print stems for a short composition Christian has just written. It's been fascinating to learn about how orchestral scores for film and television are produced. Edited January 18, 2021 by robertspectral Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_cliff Posted January 17, 2021 Author Share Posted January 17, 2021 Thanks Robert! I’ll go try now and let you know how I get on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_cliff Posted January 17, 2021 Author Share Posted January 17, 2021 (edited) So I figured out something. I can achieve wet stems if I select and solo all the tracks and bounce from there, not from the Aux duo groups. I’ll try putting them into a Track Stack (c’mon Apple nested groups!!) Edited January 18, 2021 by evil_cliff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzfilth Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Well, yes, but bouncing all stems one at a time gets quite old quite fast. If you're really getting into working with stems (like, producing for a music library) I'd suggest setting up tracks with the stems' busses as inputs, so you can record all stems in one go (albeit in real time). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_cliff Posted January 18, 2021 Author Share Posted January 18, 2021 Thanks fuzzfilth I'll give that a try. So I need to change the input from bus 33, bus 34, bus 35 etc to an internal input? Then record them as audio in one go? That would be a real timesaver! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzfilth Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 No. If the Aux (or Summing Track Stack) which sums all guitars and the guitar reverb has Bus 23 as its input, you set up a muted track with Bus 23 as its input. Same for all the other stems. Once you're ready to print, Rec-enable all these extra tracks and record from 1.1.1.1 to the end. Done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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