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A Logic and an OSX upgrade

Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:55 am

Hello everyone,

I have a mid 2012 MBP and I am running Logic 9.1.8. on 10.8.5.
Since there are no more updates for this OS in general I would like upgrade to 10.14 Mojave.
I am planing to buy Logic X.

My questions are:
Do I have to uninstall Logic 9.1.8? If so how do I go about doing it?
Guess I'll have to since it's not supported in Mojave.

Will Logic X be able to open 9.1.8. projects?

Also I am running RME Fireface 802 via FireWire. Will FireWire work?
Anyone have any experiences with this combo?

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Re: A Logic and an OSX upgrade

Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:08 am

You don't have to uninstall Logic 9.1.8, but if it doesn't work on the new OS then you can just trash the app.

When trying to open a Logic 9 project in Logic X, Logic will automatically offer to convert your Logic 9 file to a Logic X file which it will prompt you to save.

As for the RME Fireface I'm not sure you'd have to check its compatibility status with the OS version you're installing on RME's website.
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Re: A Logic and an OSX upgrade

Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:02 am

Thank you. How do I go about removing the 9.1.8. library/jam pack or does Logic X incorporate those too?
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Re: A Logic and an OSX upgrade

Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:30 am

Leave the library sounds because Logic X uses them as well.
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Re: A Logic and an OSX upgrade

Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:36 am

cool. that was a big mystery for me :)
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Re: A Logic and an OSX upgrade

Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:19 am

Resurrecting an old subject.
I still havent managed to get my MBPro updated because of corona and the lockdowns.
What I realised is that if I leave Logic 9 on my HD I wont have any space to install the full version of Logic X (100gb)
any suggestions, recommendations?

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Re: A Logic and an OSX upgrade

Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:28 am

Which suggests that you either have a small 256 SSD which you should replace with at least a 512GB, or you have a 512 which is full with other stuff which I suggest moving to an external drive.
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Re: A Logic and an OSX upgrade

Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:37 am

I have an 512B SSD and I cant figure out why is it so full.Nothing in the documents, app, music, movies pics etc. folders suggests it should be so full.Maybe all the files from logic 9 ? Which I cant find/locate. thank you so much
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Re: A Logic and an OSX upgrade

Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:56 am

bebenavole wrote:
I have an 512B SSD and I cant figure out why is it so full.Nothing in the documents, app, music, movies pics etc. folders suggests it should be so full.Maybe all the files from logic 9 ? Which I cant find/locate. thank you so much

Just open a Finder window and look at the contents of the drive. Press Command-Option-I to open a floating Info window and start selecting folders. You may have to be patient while the folder size is calculated and displayed in the floating info window. That process allows you to determine which folders take up the most space in the hard drive.
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Re: A Logic and an OSX upgrade

Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:05 am

already done it. none of them are so big to justify the drive being so full. I think I'm gonna do the clean install. What do you think?
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Re: A Logic and an OSX upgrade

Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:10 am

any benefits on keeping the whole logic 9 structure?
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Re: A Logic and an OSX upgrade

Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:20 am

Depends. If you work on a lot of old projects with EXS instruments and lots of Space Designers, these will need factory samples in possibly a couple of locations which will not be replicated by a fresh LPX install.
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Re: A Logic and an OSX upgrade

Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:27 am

bebenavole wrote:
already done it. none of them are so big to justify the drive being so full. I think I'm gonna do the clean install. What do you think?

Did you check the size of all the folders at the very root of your HD? You should have four folders there: Applications, Library, System, Users.
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Re: A Logic and an OSX upgrade

Tue Oct 20, 2020 6:44 am

yep. not much stuff there. could there be a temp folder that needs cleaning?
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Tue Oct 20, 2020 6:45 am

bebenavole wrote:
yep. not much stuff there. could there be a temp folder that needs cleaning?

No the capacity of your HD - the sum of the sizes of the four folders should be the space left available on your drive.
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Re: A Logic and an OSX upgrade

Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:21 am

bebenavole wrote:
I have an 512B SSD and I cant figure out why is it so full.Nothing in the documents, app, music, movies pics etc. folders suggests it should be so full.Maybe all the files from logic 9 ?


Logic 9 full install was less than 20 gigs.

You should double check the size of the 4 main folders like David suggested:
Applications
Library
System
Users

Select each one and do Command-I on the keyboard.
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Re: A Logic and an OSX upgrade

Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:37 pm

Aplications - 9.24gb
Library - 31.12gb
System 5.72gb
Users 160.91gb
total
206.99gb
there should be more then 300gig free
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Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:32 pm

Do you use Dropbox or iCloud?
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Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:48 pm

nope
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Re: A Logic and an OSX upgrade

Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:50 pm

bebenavole wrote:
Aplications - 9.24gb
Library - 31.12gb
System 5.72gb
Users 160.91gb
total
206.99gb
there should be more then 300gig free


Those are visible folders - there's a whole Unix underpinning which won't be displayed in the finder, including swapfiles, caches, logfiles and all kinds of other stuff. MacOS does manage this stuff (eg archive log files etc), but it does also take up space.

If you are not sure where your files are that are taking up space, you might want to try one of the "Cleaner" type programs, like CleanMyMac, which will help you optimise this stuff.
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