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jwhitesides

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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:53 am Post subject: : Apple's new iPad and it's possible use for Logic

As an iPhone user who has tried ProRemote and Jaadu VNC, I can say that the iPad would be great using Jaadu VNC. I wouldn't even consider ProRemote (it runs poorly on the 3Gs). Why use an emulator when you can use Jaadu that is actually controlling the computer. I use Jaadu thru my iPhone already for tracking when I'm in the booth alone and no one is around the studio. It works great and isn't buggy like ProRemote. Not to mention Jaadu is much cheaper. ________________________ Music that makes your soul happy! http://jodywhitesides.com http://singleoftheday.com Mac Pro 8 core 3.2ghz 8 gig ram, OSX 10.6.4, Logic 9.1.1, UAD 5.5.0 - Macbook Pro 2.4ghz 4 gig ram OSX 10.6.4 QT 7.6.2

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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:33 am Post subject: : Apple's new iPad and it's possible use for Logic

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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:22 am Post subject: : Apple's new iPad and it's possible use for Logic

Logic makes some valid (if not cranky) points. I think this is definetly a V1 version that serves an interesting niche..and the POTENTIAL of what this can/will develop into is intriguing. I'm putting it on my 'Yeah, I want one, but I'll wait a year or two for the 3rd Gen" version. Frankly..a refurbed MacBookAir would do a better job replacing the wife's old G4 iBook. but it sure is sexy - ________________________ http://www.helldogmusic.com 2.8 MacPro Octo/Logic 9.1.1/OS 10.6.3

Simon R.

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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:25 am Post subject: : Apple's new iPad and it's possible use for Logic

mattrixx wrote:

The VNC idea is great.... and I also like the idea of programming button macros, like the Euphonix

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VNC is way too slow for this. Or is there a much much faster VNC solution that what I am using (Vine+Real VNC from Mac to PC's). It's very sluggish and would not work for this kind of stuff.
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:11 am Post subject: : Apple's new iPad and it's possible use for Logic

yeah...'tis definitely not quite there yet.......lack of usb port is a major omission ________________________ there is no sanctuary logic 9, x 10.5.8, mbp c2d 2.33 3g...loads of other bits of shite

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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:34 am Post subject: : Apple's new iPad and it's possible use for Logic

Mono audio - WTF? ________________________ Logic 9.1 (no SL) CrackerMackbook Honk If You've Never Seen An Uzi Fired From A Car Window. *Mods - edit anything inappropriate. I don't know the difference.

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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:47 am Post subject: : Apple's new iPad and it's possible use for Logic

I think that this iPad with TouchOSC and a Mac with OSCulator can be a powerfull duo... ________________________ MBPro 2.4 GHz, 4Gb, Focusrite 26i/o, Snow Leopard 10.6.2, Logic Pro 9.1.1, Omnisphere, Yamaha S90es, Akai EWI4000s BCF2000+LC Xmu, Eowave Eobody2 OSCulator & Wii-motes

mconnelly

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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:47 am Post subject: : Apple's new iPad and it's possible use for Logic

shivermetimbers wrote:

Mono audio - WTF?

That is only listed under Accessibility (basically features for the handicapped), in multiple other places it says stereo. I assume they mean it has a preference to set it to mono output - maybe for people who are deaf in one ear (I know people in that situation)?

This seems like it has huge potential as an audio remote controller. Spectrasonics is working on an iPhone app, something like this would allow even more flexibility.
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solsun

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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:59 am Post subject: : Apple's new iPad and it's possible use for Logic

@Logic, I personally am not the least bit concerned about the points you bring up, and neither will the millions and millions of people who will buy and enjoy the $499 device for what it's intended for.. I have a Mac Pro and a MacBook Pro which both handle all of the points you bring up just fine. My intentions for wanting an iPad are not to replace my full-fledged computers, but to use the iPad in ways that I can't use my computers.. There are plenty of examples in this thread alone. The iPad is more than just tech specs. It's more than "what" it can do, it's also "how" it does those things. In that regard, it's in a class of it's own. I'm not telling you you have to like it.. But for me and many others, there are myriads of ways I/we could put it to good use.. And at $499... Wow! ________________________ Logic Pro 9.02 - MacPro 8-core 2.8Ghz, 10GB RAM- OSX 10.6.1 - Apogee Duet

Madgear

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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:49 am Post subject: : Apple's new iPad and it's possible use for Logic

fader8 wrote:

Just the ticket for pdf manuals as well.

This will sell it for me,I mean,you'd be able to read almost real-life size documents,sifting through them with your fingers,not to mention the potential of the iBooks Store...............I already tend to read manuals,paper headlines and comic strips on the iPhone,which is great,the iPad is only more specific at it and better,no doubt,than reading from a browser on a lap top.
Then again,pricing will be crucial this time.
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shivermetimbers

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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:15 am Post subject: : Apple's new iPad and it's possible use for Logic

So is it a glorified iPhone? ________________________ Logic 9.1 (no SL) CrackerMackbook Honk If You've Never Seen An Uzi Fired From A Car Window. *Mods - edit anything inappropriate. I don't know the difference.

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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:15 am Post subject: : Apple's new iPad and it's possible use for Logic

Madgear wrote:

fader8 wrote:

Just the ticket for pdf manuals as well.

This will sell it for me,

Yeah, I'd probably get one even if that's all it did. Been looking for a decent portable reader but have been pretty disappointed with the offerings so far. But seeing as this thing will run Touch OSC, I may end up with a couple of them!
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:30 am Post subject: : Apple's new iPad and it's possible use for Logic

fader8 wrote:

... I'm just not sure how I'll be able to keep my teenagers from "borrowing" it!....

Buy a few more iPad's Laughing

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solsun

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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:39 am Post subject: : Apple's new iPad and it's possible use for Logic

shivermetimbers wrote:

So is it a glorified iPhone?

Obviously, there are a lot of similarities..

However, as demonstrated yesterday. The combo of the additional screen real estate and the more powerful processor are going to allow for much more robust applications and intricate touch UI's.

I think once people realize that it's not meant to replace a traditional laptop or desktop computer, they will start to realize how different and specialized a paper sized multi-touch interface can be.. My head is reeling with all the ideas for music apps... Smile

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champ

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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:18 pm Post subject: : Apple's new iPad and it's possible use for Logic

I'm buying one first day it comes out. Why.... ITS MAD CHEAP!!! 499,- for a 16GB controller, and much much more. plus 50 apps for only 100,- = 599,- MAD I TELL YA!! Then when version 2 arrives, sell the old one for 250,- or more And by the most expensive version available. Why? Because I can thats why! I want Spectrasonics to start develop IStylus, IOmni, ITrilian When? Now! Why? Because they can thats why! Last edited by champ on Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:23 pm; edited 2 times in total

organsymphony

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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:19 pm Post subject: : Apple's new iPad and it's possible use for Logic

Logic Pro wrote:

No USB Port
No SD Slot

this post is only a few posts up:

solsun wrote:

A hardwired solution could also be used with the 30 pin connector. Apple already has adapters for USB/30pin and CardReader/30 pin.

Scroll down the page to see accessory pics:

http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/

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n6smith

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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:52 pm Post subject: : Apple's new iPad and it's possible use for Logic

jwhitesides wrote:

I use Jaadu thru my iPhone already for tracking when I'm in the booth alone and no one is around the studio. It works great and isn't buggy like ProRemote. Not to mention Jaadu is much cheaper.

I've used both on my iPhone. I don't have any issues with ProRemote as a remote transport controller though I agree, in parts of the app like the pads and faders... there is some lag if your wireless network isn't running at 'full speed...'

Jaadu is kinda hard to really see on an iPhone, with or without zoom... Maybe it's my ancient eyes? Having said that, the thought of Jaadu on an iPad...or something of a similar nature, to remote control my iMac is, in itself, a pretty good reason to get an iPad imho... which is, at the moment, what my Dell Mini 9 gets used for...

Oh, and to the poster who mentioned slow responses using VNC... running Jaadu through Vine really helped a great deal with the initial sluggish responses and update speeds I found..
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 5:44 pm Post subject: Apple's new iPad and it's possible use for Logic

I've been hoping that someone would pick up David Gibson's "Virtual Mixer" and properly implement it on an elegantly configured device. Today's touch technology could easily inspire some serious brainstorming. http://www.globerecording.com/virtualmixer/vm.html ________________________ ----------------------------------------- MacBook Pro 2.2 Core 2 Duo - 4 Gigs Ram, Duet, Logic Studio 9.1.1, Snow Leopard 10.6.4 ----------------------------------------- At Play in the Tale of Now.

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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:14 pm Post subject: : Apple's new iPad and it's possible use for Logic

No-one seems to have mentioned that Apple could easily build a completely custom controller for Logic onto the iPad. Bring up a plugin - it's on your iPad - as opposed to the main computer screen. For me - I'm not keen on all the current controllers (automap etc.) - I'm not an expert though. ...but I really hate messing with plugins on the screen with a mouse. So right now I don't have a great interaction with Logic plugins at all. But a little thought from Apple and the plugins on the iPad would be the killer app for me and easily worth the $499. Guess I'd need to upgrade to 9.1 as well though ;o) ________________________ logic 9.1.1 - MBP 2.33 - 2GB - 10.6.3

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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:52 pm Post subject: : Apple's new iPad and it's possible use for Logic

That's the thing.. There are many other 'main' apps that could benefit from a 'sub' app on the iPad. How about a paint mixing palette for an Art program... or a extra display/controller screen for a video program...Even simply a VNC type program for checking on servers... The possibilities are almost endless... which is why i think that the iPad will succeed in ways we probably can't even imagine at this time, much as the iPhone did so... and being honest, who would have thought of many different types of useful iPhone apps and ideas for such apps at the time it was launched. ________________________ Nigel My Blog inc Fireflies Remix - Owl City Logic Pro 9.1.1, OS X 10.6.2, iMac 3.06 4 gig Several external HDs (USB/800) Motu UltraLite & A-90EX Keyboard...

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