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horaceB

Joined: 23 Sep 2005
Posts: 37
Location: UK

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 2:14 pm Post subject: : Behringer B-Control BCF2000

Ronnie, Many thanks for your concern, I live in sweden and houses here are made of wood, not like the good old bricks and morter of London town. We are actually ok as far as that is concerned, now on the insulation, what with winters reaching -20 it's needed ! Anyway back to Logic I suppose (no dry rot there).

daz

Joined: 11 Aug 2006
Posts: 21

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:04 pm Post subject: reverse question

so after Kouli aw4some explaination my bcf2000 is working =but the opposite way i want. i want the bcf2000 to control the fader in logic but the faders in logic currently control the bcf2000. i found online that if you start up the bcf2000 with the 3 top key on the left habd side starts the bcf up logic mode...but this is opposite to what i want---beringers website is hard to understand too...can any one help me? cheers

Musicianista

Joined: 25 Aug 2006
Posts: 186
Location: Sydney, Australia

Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 1:26 am Post subject: A Big Thanks...

Hey Kouly, Thanks for your BCF2000 setup walkthru. I too was about to return/sell or chuck this thing in the bin due to no results from hours of frustrating reading and programming. The machine now behaves flawlessly! My only problem now is that a few functions are missing like Pan and Solo. I'm sure I can negotiate these now that the BCF is communicating to & fro properly. Thanks again... you're the DUDE! -Andy- ________________________ Cheers, Ando LOGIC 9.1.1/32 iMac24 2.33 3gb ram OS X 10.6.2 Firestudio 26x26, UC 3.4.2, Monitor Station Remote, HP4, FireBox ADA8000 via ADAT 1-8 Digidesign 003 / Pro Tools LE 8.01cs1

Kouly

Joined: 20 Mar 2006
Posts: 235
Location: Las Vegas Nevada

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:39 pm Post subject: Re: reverse question

daz wrote:

so after Kouli aw4some explaination my bcf2000 is working =but the opposite way i want.
i want the bcf2000 to control the fader in logic but the faders in logic currently control the bcf2000.
i found online that if you start up the bcf2000 with the 3 top key on the left habd side starts the bcf up logic mode...but this is opposite to what i want---beringers website is hard to understand too...can any one help me?
cheers

Hey Daz, I know this is an obvious thing but I thought I would mention it anyway.
The BCF does not have touch sensitive faders so it is best not used in Touch mode. If you keep it in Latch it should conrol the faders in logic with no problem. I use it all the time this way. If you still have problems after this let me know.

Last edited by Kouly on Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:10 pm; edited 1 time in total

Kouly

Joined: 20 Mar 2006
Posts: 235
Location: Las Vegas Nevada

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:07 pm Post subject: : Behringer B-Control BCF2000

In case your BCF has any quirky behaviour, like some of the things mentioned above. I have three steps that usually get it back to its Purrrfect attitude. I call it my 3 steps to a happy control surface. 1. Rebuild Defaults. Preferences/Control Surface/Rebuild Defaults If this does not work then go to #2 2.reinstall control surface in Logic This is the one in the setup menu delete old one, install a new "Mackie Logic Control" If this does not work then go to #3 3. trash control surface preference file, (This is in User/Library/Preferences/Logic/com.apple.logic.pro.cs) empty trash then restart your computer. (NOTE: You may have to do #3 as many as four times before it works, Logic can be stubborn, so be patient and determined. You are in control and you have to remind Logic of this sometimes.) IF these things do not restore it, I believe there is something else going on in your system that is causing the problem. Posting system details will help track it down.

richieA

Joined: 11 Oct 2006
Posts: 2

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:09 am Post subject: : Behringer B-Control BCF2000

first off, hi all, secondly, am i doing something monumentally wrong here, i have followed the set up as stated above but when i turn the BCF2000 on holding the 3rd button from left, nothing happens it seems to start up in play mode ive tried it with other emulation settings and the same happens, do i need to upgrade the bcf? it displays 1.03 on start up! im using osx10.4.8, and now hopfully i will be able to get this thing working! thanks in advance for any help i may get from you! EDIT: right ive answered my own questions through a bit of pulling out hair and spending a bit of extra time looking around the internet...so it seems i need the newest firmwear which, as far as im aware, i cant do due to only having a mac and i have no access to windows! so what i now need to know is how do i update using mac...this has surly got to be possible and also should i be able to find the bcf2000 on the mac?

Kouly

Joined: 20 Mar 2006
Posts: 235
Location: Las Vegas Nevada

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 1:12 am Post subject: : Behringer B-Control BCF2000

richieA wrote:

first off, hi all,

thanks in advance for any help i may get from you!

EDIT: right ive answered my own questions through a bit of pulling out hair and spending a bit of extra time looking around the internet...so it seems i need the newest firmwear which, as far as im aware, i cant do due to only having a mac and i have no access to windows! so what i now need to know is how do i update using mac...this has surly got to be possible and also should i be able to find the bcf2000 on the mac?

You should be able to use the update since it is a SYSEX file. You will need to use
SysEx librarian ( a mac program) to send the update to the BCF. Once you launch SysEx librarian the program will see the BCF. Just choose the port on the BCF to send it too and it should work. If you need more help let me know.

Kouly

richieA

Joined: 11 Oct 2006
Posts: 2

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:44 am Post subject: : Behringer B-Control BCF2000

Kouly wrote:

hey, yeh i tried sysex librarian, as it was suggested by behringer, but when i tried to install it, it diddnt work, so i gave up, ill try it again and then if that doesnt work ill try borrowing a windows based laptop from my family when they come down and see me.

cheers for the help! and i hope this will work!

RA

echidna

Joined: 30 Apr 2007
Posts: 2

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:06 pm Post subject: Mirroring the Track Mixer / Ignoring hidden tracks

Thanks Kouly, good explanation. But does anyone know how to get the BCF2000 to mirror the Track Mixer? It controls my hidden tracks as well, which means the faders don't line up with what I'm seeing. Thanks.

Andy_113

Joined: 14 Apr 2008
Posts: 8

Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 4:40 am Post subject: : Behringer B-Control BCF2000

Hey guys. Just a little problem im having. It may be a silly question but ill ask anyway. How do i assign the different buttons to what i want them to be? for example. if i wanted to chage the 'Channel Select' button to be the 'Solo' button. Thanks in advance Andy. PS. Thanks for writing those intructions Kouly. They helped alot! ________________________ andy

Spectacle

Joined: 28 Oct 2007
Posts: 838
Location: Sierra Madre, CA

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:41 am Post subject: BCF2000 w/Logic 8 -- opinions?

Resuscitating an old thread -- does the Behringer BCF2000 play nice with Logic Studio? I know Behringer often sucks, but this looks like it might not. Are compatibility issues fixed? ________________________ MBP 2.33 GHz / 3GB / 10.5.8 / Logic Pro 9.1.1 & 8.0.2 / Reason 3.0.5 eSATA and FW800 ext HDs / Line 6, IK, Nomad, Toontrack, etc. plugs Alesis iO26 / Pod X3Live / M-Audio iControl (seriously) / Yamaha Piano / Yamaha eDrums > Alesis ControlPad

Spectacle

Joined: 28 Oct 2007
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Location: Sierra Madre, CA

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:10 pm Post subject: : Behringer B-Control BCF2000

Anyone? I can get a FaderPort for about the same price -- but only one fader... So, again, BCF2000 and Logic 8? Let me know. Thanks. ________________________ MBP 2.33 GHz / 3GB / 10.5.8 / Logic Pro 9.1.1 & 8.0.2 / Reason 3.0.5 eSATA and FW800 ext HDs / Line 6, IK, Nomad, Toontrack, etc. plugs Alesis iO26 / Pod X3Live / M-Audio iControl (seriously) / Yamaha Piano / Yamaha eDrums > Alesis ControlPad

biff_larken

Joined: 26 Feb 2007
Posts: 683
Location: NB Canada

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:47 pm Post subject: : Behringer B-Control BCF2000

I'm really interested in this as well. I've saved enough for a BCF2000, but if it's too horrible, I'll just have to wait a while and save up for a Mackie control (which I know is better, but if the BCF2000 does the trick, there we go). Thanks Kouly for everything you've posted. If the BCF2000 works in Logic Studio, I'll be checking back and using your help. ________________________ http://www.robotcousin.com Logic Pro 9.1 OSX 10.6.3 Mac Pro 2.66GHz Quad-Core Xeon Presonus Firestudio 3GB RAM Soldier in the Loudness Wars

Desdinova

Joined: 29 Sep 2008
Posts: 4

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:46 pm Post subject: : Behringer B-Control BCF2000

My BCF has given me no trouble whatsoever so far..... ;_) ________________________ Logic Studio 8.0.2/ 10.5.5 / Intel iMac 1.83ghz C2D 17" / 2gb Ram / 120 gb Internal + 400 gb Ext USB 2/ TonePort GX + Vetta 2 HD.... http://www.myspace.com/desd1nova

John DeBorde

Joined: 28 Jun 2007
Posts: 65

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:49 am Post subject: : Behringer B-Control BCF2000

How well does the BCF 2000 work as a midi continuous controller? Say if I want to set it up to control expression, filter cutoff & resonance, etc - will the motorized faders update to reflect the current values when I switch tracks? thanks! john

Coil

Joined: 18 Feb 2006
Posts: 90

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:12 am Post subject: : Behringer B-Control BCF2000

hmm, i alwas thought that the bfc2000 works out of the box with logic (shure, you first should bring the unit in the logic mode while powering it up). so years ago i saw these videos here, perhaps someone here will find them helpfull: http://www.dancetech.com/item.cfm?threadid=3714&lang=0 a good video overview on faderport and logic you can find at: http://www.sonicstate.com/video/index.cfm (just search for faderport here) also there is a video about the alphatrack and logic here: http://www.musotalk.de/special/detailansicht/article/musikmesse-2008-frontier-design-alpha-channel/ personally i have a bcr2000 with lc xmu and since 2 weeks an alphatrak. both still works without any problem. btw. sorry for my english

onemanband72

Joined: 15 Oct 2008
Posts: 1

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:06 am Post subject: : Behringer B-Control BCF2000

Daz I was encountering the same problem and went to my controller setup and one of the parameters is "Input" and if you set it to Port 1 (for me it may be 2) it allowed my BCF to communicate with Logic. Now everything works, my vpots and faders move the faders on the screen and screen moves the motorized faders. Hope this helps

unimbued

Joined: 18 Jul 2007
Posts: 19
Location: Newcastle, United Kingdom

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 4:55 pm Post subject: : Behringer B-Control BCF2000

many thanks! ________________________ www.exlibrisrecords.com - a challenging & independent record label, with wolves.

yaryo

Joined: 29 Feb 2008
Posts: 1

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:53 pm Post subject: : Behringer B-Control BCF2000

Thank You. This helped a lot!

mrosmosis

Joined: 11 Feb 2009
Posts: 1

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:42 pm Post subject: : Behringer B-Control BCF2000

onemanband72 wrote:

Daz I was encountering the same problem and went to my controller setup and one of the parameters is "Input" and if you set it to Port 1 (for me it may be 2) it allowed my BCF to communicate with Logic. Now everything works, my vpots and faders move the faders on the screen and screen moves the motorized faders. Hope this helps

Thx man, this did it for me!

And also thx to all the others who posted very usefull tips!

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